“Reforms and transformation need to happen at every point in the system, but also way beyond the system,” Vanita Gupta, the president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights said at the Smart on Crime Innovations Conference.

“We need to stop thinking about the problems as simply being contained to the criminal legal system.” she began.

Gupta was speaking at a panel moderated by Carroll Bogert, President of The Marshall Project.

Tuesday was the first day of the third annual Smart on Crime Innovations Conference, which aims to bring together people from different disciplines—all with a common goal of “changing the criminal justice system to be fairer, more just, comprehensive, and effective.”

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